Showing posts with label TINA. Show all posts
Showing posts with label TINA. Show all posts

Thursday, December 7, 2023

Happy Holidays!

Equity markets are making new highs every day. Other assets like gold, bitcoin, bonds, cash, real estate, etc., are also performing decently. Logically, investors should be happy and looking forward to a great holiday season. However, multiple interactions with investors and other market participants, over the past couple of weeks, indicate to the contrary. Investors appear stressed for a variety of reasons.

Wednesday, September 7, 2022

A visit to the markets – Greed dominating fear

 In the past one week, I discussed the current situation in the Indian financial markets with some seasoned investors and experienced market participants. It was after almost three months that I got an opportunity to discuss the markets with such an enlightened group of people. Mood of markets definitely appears to have changed remarkably since June 2022.

After my interaction with some senior market participants (bankers and investors) I had noted that the mood was rather despondent. The consensus in June appeared strongly in favor of a slow grind over the next 6-9months. The reference point of discussion was mostly the 2008 market crash. The market participants sounded cautious about rising cost of funds and drying liquidity; and feared major defaults that could trigger a global contagion. (see here).

Reactions of the market participants this time were diametrically opposite. Most of them were in fact trying more to convince themselves about “all is well” rather than discussing the market conditions objectively. They refused to acknowledge that the global macro conditions have deteriorated materially in the past three months, led primarily by Europe and China. They argued forcefully in favor of a “decoupled India” and “TINA”. Despite no visible improvement in Indian macro conditions; below par corporate performance in 1QFY23 and dark clouds over export growth that have sustained the 1.4% CAGR for India’s GDP in the past three years.

The platitudes like “Decade and century of India”; 5th largest economy ahead of the UK” were advanced with impunity; as if they are trying to justify change in their stance from “extreme bearishness” to “cautious optimism” and “uber-bullishness”. Some of them even claimed that they did never advise underweight on Indian equities.

The consensus view now appears to be “cautious optimism”; high single digit returns; mid and small cap outperformance; active investment; and priority to stock selection. However, contrary to this rhetoric, the positioning seems to be tilting towards low quality, insanely valued and small cap stocks. The “greed” is definitely dominating the “fear”, at this point in time.



Wednesday, September 16, 2020

Dilemma : Stay with TINA or run towards hills?

The September 2020 Global Fund Managers' survey conducted by the Bank of America research team found that 58% of the global fund managers believe that global equities are now in a bull market. This percentage is materially higher than the 46% in August 2020. The proportion of fund manager who believe it to be a bear market rally has reduced in September 2020 to 29% from 35% in August 2020.

An overwhelming proportion of fund managers believe that "Long US Tech Stocks" is the most crowded trade. Though, the fund managers believing gold to be a crowded trade has reduced materially in September, as compared to August. "Short USD" trade is also seen gaining some popularity .

Continuing with the theme, JP Morgan Research (as quoted by Niels Jensen of Absolute Partners), finds that S&P500 is now pricing in almost 0% probability of a recession in US; while 5yr US Treasuries are pricing in almost 100% probability of a recession.

In his latest communication to investors, Niels warns that investors (and fund managers) may be flirting dangerously with TINA (There is No Alternative) in their chase for equities, especially US Tech Stocks. As per Niels, One of the most reliable predictors of long-term equity returns is the starting earnings multiple. When earnings multiples are in the low 20s, the best you can hope for over the next ten years is low single digit annual returns. As you can see, 10-year returns turn negative when the starting multiple is about 25 or higher.

Niels highlights that, as per Shiller's Cyclically Adjusted  P/E Ratio (CAPE), S&P500 trades at massive 32x earnings multiple, which means apocalypse may just around the corner and the investors must be running to the hills.

In a later post, I would like to evaluate where India stands in all this.